Love and Biology at the Center of the Universe
A Conversation with Jennie
Q. With your first two novels, Riding with the Queen and Eating Heaven, you created fictional stories using your own life experiences. Have you mined your own life again for Love & Biology at the Center of the Universe?
Geographically, yes. I'm in love with the coast of Oregon, and wrote some of this book while at a writer's retreat there. And now I live in Seattle on a hill that overlooks Fremont, and I hear that little bridge rising every so often, and see the seaplanes buzzing down the canal from my home office window. But personally speaking, not quite as much. I've never had children, or been a biology teacher, or lived in a small town, or gone through a separation from my husband, but I do know the pain of feeling abandoned, which I think is at the heart of this story.
I'm also in the midst of my own perimenopausal craziness and brain fog, and the bewilderment over what it all means about who I am and who I am becoming. Am I still a sexual being, a biological woman? Obviously I'd like to think I always will be, but we get such weird messages from society about it. And I think I've always struggled with the whole "good girl/bad girl" construct, wanting only to be seen as "good." I am a people-pleaser, a middle child, a Libra, and, of course, female, so I have it in spades. But I'm getting better.
Q. Right. Mira begins the story as the "perfect" wife and mother, but we quickly see that façade crumble as the story progresses. Is she inherently a good person with naughty tendencies, or a bad girl who just wants to be good? Is there a difference?
Well, that's the thing. She's both. I think that probably most of us have some duality in our personalities, our natures, and we can have a hard time reconciling the two, as Mira does at first. The more important thing is to be true to yourself, and that's Mira's challenge in the story: to discover what that means for her.
Q. Your characters' names are often evocative of their inner states or personalities. Tell us about some of the names you chose for the characters in this book.
The main character, Mira Serafino, is named for her saintly mother. Mira means "light of the world," and Serafino means "angel." She's almost obligated by her name to try to attain sainthood, which is, of course, impossible.
Mira's husband's name is Parker, and there is a point in the story at which she sees him as parked, unmoving. Their daughter Thea is a bit theatrical, but also kind of wise, and this old Greek name seemed appropriate. Nonna is simply the Italian word for grandmother; Alfonso a name I just like. It feels big and friendly to me. I wanted Gus and Doug to be fairly simple, fun-loving guys, so I gave them guttural one-syllable names. Kind of like, "Dude!"
What I really had fun with were the band names… and here's a little secret: the Twang Gods first appeared in Riding with the Queen
. I brought them back because I loved their name so much. I wanted them to have their proper due.
Q. You tackle big life issues in your novelsincluding mental illness, homelessness, addiction, and death and dying in your previous books. In Love & Biology, we have a woman facing menopause, empty-nest syndrome, and the break-up of her marriage. Do you specifically set out to chronicle certain issues, and why?
I think I did at first, and probably pretty obviously to deal with some things I'd been through in my own life: having a mentally ill mother, never making it as a musician, being with someone I cared about who was dying. In this book, the issues I care deeply about have to do with how we view women at mid-life, and how we feel about ourselves. I think one of the most invisible populations on this planet is mid-life women! People no longer seem to see you, or place value in you. I don't know if it has a biological underpinningwe're no longer viable baby-makers so we have less biological importancebut I think we actually have so much more social relevance. We're wise, we're caring. We're strongwe've been through so much and survived it. And we're funny, and sexy, dammit!
Q. Yes, it's refreshing to have mid-life women portrayed as sexual beings, and your protagonists certainly show that aspect. Does that just flow as a natural part of your character development, or do you make a conscious effort to include sexuality? And do you ever surprise yourself at what you've written?
Well, I always aim to write fully human characters, and sexuality is part of that. Even if you're asexual or non-sexual, that would be relevant to who you are. In this story, Mira's sexuality is at the core of her journey. She's been denying it for so long, trying to tamp it down, but that doesn't actually make it go away. By becoming a more sexual being, she becomes more herself. And yes, I do surprise myself with the sex scenes. I don't know where they come from. Matt, my husband, likes to tell people they don't come from real lifehe thinks that's funny. All I can say is I write fiction. I like making up stuff.
Q. In the story, Mira and her grown daughter Thea have had a difficult relationship, especially as Thea tries to gain independence from her mother.
You don't have children, yet you seem to know this dynamic intimately. Did you and your mother have a hard time separating as you became an adult?
Oh, yes. I don't think my mom knew who she was if she was no longer a mother. She had a hard time when I moved out, and I was the third out of four to leave. Mira tries to exert control and Thea pulls away more. I remember that feeling very well. It was difficult, and I was angry with my mom for a while. My sisters have children who are coming of age now, and I feel close to all of them, so I still feel the pull, in both directions. I can look at it from both sides now, to misquote Joni Mitchell.
Q. Your readers often write to you, thanking you for sharing stories so personal that they feel they could be written about themselves. What do you hope your readers will take away from this book?
My readers are wonderful. They do write and share their stories, and it really touches me. And the book groups are great fun to talk with on the phone; we always have great conversations. With this book I just hope to break apart some of the myths and rules around being a middle-aged woman, to say it's okay if you still don't know what the heck it all means, or what you want out of life, or how to be a good wife and mother and daughter and sister and friend. As long as we're trying our best, and growing, and as long as we're being true to ourselves, I think we're on the right track.
Questions for Discussion
1. Main character Mira Serafino enjoys being part of her big Italian "famiglia." In what ways does her extended family help and support her, and in what ways do they perhaps keep her from becoming her true self?
2. Mira struggles with the duality of her nature. On one hand, she seems driven to be the perfect woman: a good wife, mother, daughter, and career woman. On the other hand, she wrestles with secret desires and unsettling feelings. Do most women in our society face this dilemma?
3. How does Mira's family history and the early loss of her mother affect who she becomes as an adult and her relationships with her family members, husband, and daughter?
4. Four generations of women are depicted in this story. How does eachthe grandmother, the mother, Mira, and her daughter Theaimpact and influence the other? What does Nonna pass down through the generations, and how do each of the younger generations either accept or refuse it?
5. Why does Mira run away from home? Do you think she's justified, or are her actions irrational and irresponsible? Do you think she should have stayed and tried to work it out with her husband Parker?
6. Mira makes a new life in Seattle at the Coffee Shop at the Center of the Universe. Why do you think she chooses this? Is it really only because it's where her car breaks down, or is it because, as she says, "she landed in this Oz, like Dorothy, for a reason"?
7. Why is Thea angry with Mira? Is it simple mother-daughter separation, or are there deeper reasons behind it?
8. Betrayal and abandonment are central issues in this story. How many characters feel they are betrayed or abandoned, and in what ways?
9. The story starts in a small town on the idyllic coast of Oregon and ends up in the noisy hubbub of an urban neighborhood in Seattle. How does this relate to Mira's personal journey as well as physical?
10. What does Mira learn from her male relationships at the coffee shop? From Gus? Doug? Martin?
11. How has Mira changed by the end of the story? Why does she make the final decision she does?
Synopsis and Praise
Prologue and Chapter 1
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